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closed guard and other techniques in a streetfight

    Tue, 2006-02-28 07:26 — sparky

    What does everybody here think about the closed guard in a streetfight? What do you guys do to avoid punches when you have someone in your closed guard out on the streets? I've personally never had a streetfight where I had to fight someone from closed guard. I think you all agree that the closed guard is a versatile but dangerous position to be in out on the streets, but what if you had to fight from it? In my gym where I train bjj there is a lot of emphasis on the closed guard (as in every bjj school) but we hardly ever see what to do when you have someone in your closed guard out on the streets who isn't trying to pass your guard but who is trying to punch your face into a bloody pulp. What do you guys think you should do when you have someone in your closed guard out on the streets? I personally think that is a problem very common in modern bjj schools, the emphasis is highly on sport jiu-jitsu and/or vale tudo and less on self defence on the streets. Offcourse sport jiu-jitsu is usefull on the streets, but jumping to closed guard on the streets for example isn't the smartest thing to do whereas in spot competion this can be an advantage if your guard is good. I personally think that when you have someone in your closed guard on the streets you constantly have to keep moving and changing your position using your hips. Never lay flat on your back completely still! Keep your opponent really really close and underhook or overhook one or both arms. Then try to sweep or attack the opponent, wich isn't very difficult on the streets as they propably don't know what to do and are propably wildly flinging their arms so that a sweep/triangle/armlock or another attack is never far away. Offcourse the attacks are harder to perform because you also have to keep attention to the punches of your opponent. Then another thing, I personally believe that a lot of the gi chokes can be used on the streets when using your opponents sweater, jacket or even his t-shirt. I'm not sure though that the classical choke from closed guard is usefull on the streets as I think it leaves you open for punches. Offcourse when you bring your opponent real close to perform the choke it is hard to hit you... What do you guys think about 'gi chokes' out on the streets? I also believe that training with the gi is a better way of preparing yourself for the streets than training without the gi. Because in a street situation you'll propably be wearing some sort of clothes and your enemy propably to. Do you guys agree with that? I'm not saying that I know it best, I just wanted some other peoples opinions on this matter.

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    Cobraguard's picture

    A white Gi is exceptable for Justin Leigh only with the blue belt and red pants

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    Justin's picture

    Cobraguard wrote:
    A white Gi is exceptable for Justin Leigh only with the blue belt and red pants

    U R GAY

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    KibunInc's picture

    If it is a street fight I try t stay out of the guard. I take the top position and start to pound my opponent.

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    KibunInc's picture

    I have been in too many street fights. I would not go to the guard unless I was in alot of trouble. Always take the top position and pound the shit out of your opponent. Street fights are different then competetion.

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    jleigh's picture

    The closed guard is excellent for the street fight .... but only if you are wearing your gi. Wear your gi everywhere you go!

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    JWebb's picture

    jleigh wrote:
    The closed guard is excellent for the street fight .... but only if you are wearing your gi. Wear your gi everywhere you go!

    Yeah and make sure its a red Gi too. :D

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    JWebb wrote:
    Yeah and make sure its a red Gi too. :D

    Only if it's after Labor Day.... otherwise the white gi is just fine.

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    Justin's picture

    JWebb wrote:
    Yeah and make sure its a red Gi too. :D

    With Blue Pants.

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    cod9ksyelijah's picture

    I'll answer your thread with honesty. The street fights I've been in, which are a few, the guard has been great. Or should I say, the jiu jitsu. In several I didn't have to use it because I DOMINATED my opponent:) In one I was facing multiple opponents and I pulled one into guard after having my head put through a window by three guys. I used the one as a shield in my guard while I held my bleeding head and the others couldn't hit me. Of course it was broken up with police sirens a few minutes later, and I jumped out the same broken window and took off. Thats about all you can hope for in that situation. Have faith. Gracie Jiu Jitsu is the tits in a street fight, period.

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    sparky's picture

    thanx for the reply, I found it very interesting. Especially the part about the guy pulling guard and using an opponent as a shield. I don't go out looking for trouble and I wouldn't call myself a 'streetfighter'. But I already had a few fights wich were inevitable. And when this happens and I'm forced to a streetfight, I wanna make sure that my jiu-jitsu will work. And since the guard is one of the most important aspects of jiu-jitsu, especially against stronger and bigger opponents I want to make sure it works too in a real-life situation.

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