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Thoughts on Roger Gracie vs Don Frye

    Tue, 2006-08-15 10:01 — Gumby

    I actually do not think this is the ideal debut for Roger Gracie for two reasons.

    1) Why make his debut in the US? This is honestly the venue where he will atttract the least amount of attention. If this match was in the UK, it will fill Wembly Stadium, it could be the biggest MMA show in Europe ever. In Japan he would be fighting in front of tens of thousands in the most highly anticpated debuts ever there. In Brazil it would be front page news. Here in the US, they will struggle to sell to 50% capacity. I'm sorry, but the Gracies name in this market has gone way down with some very high profile losses. Roger Gracie is less of a draw to mainstream American audiences than any contestant on the Ultimate Fighter. Think I'm wrong? Witness the only sites which are reporting on Roger's debut are JiuJitsu based ones, the story is untouched by the more MMA based sites such as MMAWeekly, Sherdog, and Maxfighing among others. Furthermore, sport BJJ champions have proven to be lacklaster draws in the US as of late, including Gabriel Napao and Pe de Pano.

    2) Don Frye may be past his prime, but he is still an extremely dangerous opponent for Roger Gracie. Roger would have been much safer picking a grappling based fighter for his first opponent. I can say with confidence that any Roger would have a distinct advantage over any\one who prefers submissions. The trouble is, Don Frye has no intention of going to the ground, and I'm not sure if Roger can take him there. Roger's takedowns are suspect (pretty much the reason why he isn't a three time Mundial Absolute champion) and Frye is a pretty good wrestler. A striking contest is going to heavily favor Frye as well. Plus Frye has a definite experience advantage and a probable strength advantage.

    Don't get me wrong, I am rooting for Roger, I think a win for him would be good for jiu jitsu. But I am not thrilled about the circumstances of this match up.

    KibunInc's picture

    That is interesting that he chose to debut here. Maybe he is getting alot of money to fight here. Traditionaly japan pays more but I do not know what kind of contract he received. Yes the Gracies do not pull in a big crowd anymore because as Americans we like violence, the old ground and pound. No not every likes it, I like the chess match of the ground game but people as a whole like punches.

    Don Frye is not in his prime but he has been activly fighting having his last bout just a couple of months ago. BJJ guys tend to not have great take downs while wrestlers do. But once on the ground BJJ guys have excellent submissions that most wrestlers do not. Don Frye has a strenght advantage but lets see if he can use it against the skills of Roger.

    Sorry but my money is on Don Frye. The Gracies need another star to boost their name in America.

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