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Tom Atencio Not Happy With Dana Talking To Belfort

    Wed, 2009-06-24 10:47 — chernobyl kid

    Some might have missed it, however Affliction Entertainments VP Tom Atencio certainly didnt. During a commercial break in this past Saturdays TUF 9 Finale, UFC president Dana White publicly stated that he is intending to make a run at former UFC champ Vitor Belfort. The only problem is hes still under contract with Affliction with a fight right around the corner.

    [White"> did say something [about Belfort">, Atencio told FightLine.com about Whites recruiting tactics. Im talking to [Belforts"> management, so were in negotiations. Where Dana came up with that, I dont know. Maybe hes just trying to stir the pot. Thats what he does and he does it well.

    Although Atencio was gracious as always throughout the interview, you did get a sense that he may have been a tad irked by the fact that White was trying to dip into Afflictions talent pool.

    The conversation even swayed towards other major sports, where if an owner openly discusses wanting a player under contract with an opposing team, that owner could be fined for tampering.

    Maybe he wants to get hit with a tampering charge, Atencio jokingly told us about what he thought Whites motives were. I just dont know, I cant speak for Dana. Im sure he just wants to stir the pot, like I said.

    Oddly, White may have jumped the gun in announcing his pursuit of Belforts services. Although the Brazilian has won his previous four scraps, the last two coming under Afflictions banner, what if he were to lose his Affliction: Trilogy bout against Jorge Santiago?

    Would White and Co. show the same desire for a 32-year-old fighter that just dropped his last fight?

    Interesting maneuver by White. Well just have to wait and see how this plays out.

    three harmonies's picture

    White is, was, and forever will be a douche waffle!

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    overcat's picture

    three harmonies;24672 wrote:
    White is, was, and forever will be a douche waffle!

    so you liked the UFC better, before he took over... back when we had to wait every 4 months to watch a UFC on PPV? :rolleyes:

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    KibunInc's picture

    No the ufc is better since dana white but now dana needs to turn it over to people who will run it better. Dana is the best and worst thing for the UFC.

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    overcat's picture

    KibunInc;24679 wrote:
    No the ufc is better since dana white but now dana needs to turn it over to people who will run it better. Dana is the best and worst thing for the UFC.

    That makes absolutely no sense.

    Dana is one of the UFC's owners and he's one of the lone reasons for it's massive success.

    Just look at all the other MMA organizations that have failed (Bodog, IFL, EliteXC, Pride, WFA, etc.)... They are the ones that needed someone (like Dana) to "run it better."

    As the old expressions go: "If it ain't broke, don't fix it."

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    three harmonies's picture

    It has become broke. Mark our words: White will single handedly build, and destroy the UFC.

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    Tulio Perrone's picture

    three harmonies;24691 wrote:
    It has become broke. Mark our words: White will single handedly build, and destroy the UFC.

    Why? How is he going to destroy it?
    Last I checked, his company was doing very well despite a recessed economy...

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    overcat's picture

    three harmonies;24691 wrote:
    It has become broke. Mark our words: White will single handedly build, and destroy the UFC.

    What is broke about about it? The millions of dollars they make each show? The millions of dollars they pump into the local economies of the cities they host their shows in? The 2 shows a month they are now averaging that keeps more MMA fighters working than any other show in the world?

    Then their's the hit reality show TUF that is currently filming it's 10th season, which made the sport go mainstream. Then their is the trading cards that keep selling out, the huge DVD sales, the #1 selling video game in the world, the release of its first UFC magazine this month, the rapid growth of the WEC that is promoting fighters in the lighter weight classes, and the huge sponsorship money and movie deals that are now available to fighters. They are also about to hold a UFC Fan Expo that will promote all the smaller companies in this sport, which are all profiting off of the mainstream exposure the UFC has given the sport. Everything Zuffa touches turns to gold, even in this crappy economy.

    It's okay to simply dislike Dana's personality, but what you just said is incorrect and laughable. The UFC is a money-making machine that has single-handedly led the growth of MMA worldwide. You are just a jealous little fan boy that wishes you were Dana. LOL

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    KibunInc's picture

    Overcat I see your position but it is strictly one sided. I said Dana White is the best and worst thing for the UFC. Yes Dana White built the UFC from a second rated fighting orginazation to the biggest in the world.

    The reason Dana is bad for the UFC is that he is strictly about the money. His way of obtaining the money is by doing and saying he is promoting the UFC. When he sits on fighter's contracts to keep them out of the world of MMA, when he wants fighters to sign over all rights to their name for a video game, when he does not pay many people money they deserve or give them a title shot, when he brings in a WWE wrestler to make him a champion, then he is slowly destroying the UFC. There was another promoter in boxing who acted the same way and held everone's contracts and tried to control boxing, he was called Don King.

    I am not putting down Dana White and we owe him for bringing the UFC to what it is today, but he has his limitations and I feel he would be better served to have another person help run the UFC in order to play devils advocate to make sure his ego does not get out of place.

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    overcat's picture

    KibunInc;24693 wrote:
    Overcat I see your position but it is strictly one sided. I said Dana White is the best and worst thing for the UFC. Yes Dana White built the UFC from a second rated fighting orginazation to the biggest in the world.

    The reason Dana is bad for the UFC is that he is strictly about the money. His way of obtaining the money is by doing and saying he is promoting the UFC. When he sits on fighter's contracts to keep them out of the world of MMA, when he wants fighters to sign over all rights to their name for a video game, when he does not pay many people money they deserve or give them a title shot, when he brings in a WWE wrestler to make him a champion, then he is slowly destroying the UFC. There was another promoter in boxing who acted the same way and held everone's contracts and tried to control boxing, he was called Don King.

    I am not putting down Dana White and we owe him for bringing the UFC to what it is today, but he has his limitations and I feel he would be better served to have another person help run the UFC in order to play devils advocate to make sure his ego does not get out of place.

    All of your points are GREAT for the UFC. Dana is running a business called the UFC. He is doing what is necessary for the UFC's greater good. The UFC is bigger than any one fighter or fan. It's good business when you are protecting and expanding your assets, while all of your competitors are failing left and right.

    -strictly about the money. **Just like every successful "business" in the world.**

    -His way of obtaining the money is by doing and saying he is promoting the UFC. **The UFC is his business. Of course he's gonna promote it.**

    -When he sits on fighter's contracts to keep them out of the world of MMA. **That is done in every sport. In the NFL, Chad Ochocinco (formerly known as Chad Johnson) of the Cincinnati Bengals wanted to be traded if he didn't get a new contract. Marvin Lewis told him to NO. He either plays under the contract he signed or he can sit on the bench.**

    -when he wants fighters to sign over all rights to their name for a video game. **It's the best and only MMA video game on the market with zero competition. The UFC video game is also used as a promotional tool fighters can use to get sponsorship money (sponsors are shown on the video game character's shorts). Business deals such as these include contracts.

    -when he does not pay many people money they deserve. **Dana ALWAYS pays people the money that is stated in the contracts that the fighters sign. If they don't feel that is enough money, then they should fight elsewhere. Dana also gives out more performance bonuses (i.e. KO of the Night, Submission of the Night, Fight of the Night) than anyone in the business.**

    -when he does not give them a title shot. **The UFC divisions are getting so deep with talent, that it's simply impossible to give every deserving fighter a title shot at the same time.**

    -when he brings in a WWE wrestler to make him a champion. **You mean Brock Lesnar, who had already commited to MMA full-time and won the 2000 NCAA D-1 heavyweight championship with a record of 106-5 overall in four years of college? Lesnar also got a title shot in his 3rd UFC fight (4th MMA fight overall), after beating a seasoned vet in Heath Herring. The previous UFC owners gave Randy Couture a title shot in his 2nd UFC fight (2nd MMA fight overall), after beating a WWF wrestler in Tony Halme (Couture also never won a NCAA D-1 championship; he was a 2x runner-up).

    One other thing, comparing Dana White to Don King is completely bogus. King has been sued by many of boxing's most famous fighters, including Muhammad Ali, Tim Witherspoon, Terry Norris, Chris Byrd, Mike Tyson, and Lennox Lewis. He was also sued for a large insurance fraud scam involving a Julio Cesar Chavez fight. King has faced charges of tax evasion by the IRS and rumors of jury-tampering have swirled around him.

    It also became known that the rights to PPV fights he promoted were awarded to organized crime figures, some of whom may have known King from his book-making days. In turn, King has been investigated for possible connections with organized crime. During a 1992 Senate investigation, King pleaded the Fifth Amendment when questioned about his connection to mobster John Gotti. In public, however, he has responded to mob allegations by calling them "racist". Please be more careful before making anymore outrageous comparisons like that.

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    KibunInc's picture

    You do bring up some good points about Dana White. The comment about Don King was to show how Don King tried to control boxing. Don King also did time in jail for stomping a person to death, I was not trying to say Dana White killed anyone. The comparison was strictly from a control point of view and I should have clarified that point better.

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